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Vision 2014
« on: August 03, 2009, 01:21:32 PM »
Vision 2014.
By: Ashford Jackman (tntreview.com)


Ashford Jackman looks beyond South Africa

If, as I expect, Trinidad and Tobago defeats El Salvador in Port of Spain on August 12th, there will likely be a number of uncomfortable local football officials leaving the Hasely Crawford Stadium. I say this, not in the least doubting their collective desire for the national team to make a second successive appearance at the World Cup Finals, but rather because they do not really believe (and neither do I) that the current squad can garner, from their remaining fixtures, the points necessary to get into the Concacaf top three. Full points from El Salvador would only reopen the door to the mathematical posturing that embarrassed officials have been using to save face, upon defeat after defeat in this final round- points that would ironically put those very authorities in the awkward position of having to back earlier promises of support that might now prove to have been just robber talk.

Until recently, our campaign in this final phase has borne striking resemblance to its immediate predecessor in 2005; the team has performed woefully, and yet TTFF Special Advisor Jack Warner has maintained his bluff that it will go on to qualify. That was until two weeks ago, when Mr. Warner announced that he could no longer bear the financial burden of carrying (my word) the squad on his own, simultaneously cancelling a planned European warm-up tour, even as he switched loyalty to the youth squad preparing for the World Under-20 Finals in Egypt next month. It was surely a frank admission that the senior team’s cause was lost; and it flew in the face of his earlier statements to the contrary.

The two campaigns (2005 and the present) may appear similar; but as I noted last year, there are significant differences. For one, the nucleus of the squad has deteriorated further; if one now accepts my arguments back in 2005 that the key players were an ageing lot, add four years to each of Yorke, Latapy, Andrews, Lawrence, John (Stern) and Ince, and you will understand this writer’s prolonged silence on the current campaign. You will understand why the only surprising result for me this year was the opening draw in San Salvador- a game I felt sure we would win. But then, Brazil sacrificed their title chances in Germany 2006 by favouring Ronaldo in his bid to eclipse Gerd Mueller’s 14-goal record; why not, when two-up away to our weakest opponents, give a ‘bligh’ to Stern John- out of form, lacking in confidence, practically out of contract- and blow the only win we were odds-on to achieve, given the pedigrees of our other North and Central American adversaries in this final phase?

Which raises the other major difference in 2009: the ‘back door’ through we slipped last time around is no longer blocked by plodding Oceania teams like Bahrain. And if the U.S., Costa Rica and Mexico struggle against the South American teams, what chance Trinidad and Tobago?

On the evidence, then, Mr. Warner’s belated assessment of the situation is dead on the money; it is the context in which this about-turn has come, and the action he has initiated (there have been no public contradictions from the esteemed TTFF executive) that troubles me.

The world judges a country’s football by the success, or lack of it, of its teams in international competition. Trinidad and Tobago was the Caribbean’s lone representative at the last World Cup, yet it was beaten in the two most recent Digicel Caribbean Championships, was badly mauled at the 2007 Gold Cup, and failed even to qualify for the latest edition, just recently claimed by Mexico. 

There can be no consistency of success in our football until the powers-that-be put a structure in place to facilitate such. The switch of attention from the seniors to the Under-20s appears to be a continuation of the old habit of jumping on the back of whatever is doing well- a reaction policy rather than a strategy. Simply put, the senior Warriors have fallen out of the running in the race for South Africa; jump on the Under-20 bandwagon, whose place in Egypt is already booked. Someone in the TTFF believes that in less than a month, all the weaknesses of the junior squad can be resolved with an injection of money. That would spark a resurgence in T&T’s football. Yeah, right! In the past, I have, among many others, clamoured for a development plan; if the TTFF and its advisors cannot see that far ahead, if they cannot wait so long, then the least they can do is plan the medium term development of a competitive senior national squad.
What would it take to develop a cadre of players and a coaching staff that would hold their own in future Caribbean and Concacaf competitions; one that would give the U.S., Mexico and Costa Rica a run for their money?

Actually, the timing and the resources could hardly be better. For one, the very Under-20s have shown sufficient potential to be groomed as the replacements for our ancient warriors. Such a ploy has worked in the past to create a great team, though many may not have recognised it. Back in the 1980s, Jack Warner himself had convinced the Concacaf to let T&T host a number of youth tournaments. One year after the opening of the West Port of Spain Regional Park (now the Hasely Crawford Stadium), the 1983 Concacaf Under-16 Championship was played in Trinidad and Tobago. Out of that tournament emerged Russel Latapy, Marvin Faustin, Clint Marcelle, Colin Rocke, Todd Willis, Ainsley Weeks, Anthony Clarke and Ross Russell, among others. The following year, hosting the Concacaf Under-19 Championship yielded further gains- Kurt Barrington, Hutson Charles, Leonsen Lewis, Dexter Sandy, Linley Prince and Andrew Ali, to name a few. And in 1986, Latapy and company returned as Under-19s when T&T hosted its third such tournament in four years.
Most of the aforementioned, as we all know, went on to form the great ‘Strike Squad’ that came within one point of going to Italy 1990. For the record, the exceptions included Kerry Jamerson, the Arima Senior Comprehensive defender who was too old for the 1983 squad, and overlooked in ’84. Kerry was nonetheless part of an explosion of talent prompted by the excitement and interest generated by these tournaments, and he was later converted by ‘Gally’ Cummings into a very reliable defensive midfielder. Ditto Dwight Yorke, considered too young for both the ’83 and ’86 teams, as well as Philbert Jones and Dexter Skeene- two untried young men who made the leap straight into the senior ranks.

When the Cummings/Neville Chance partnership took over the senior squad in 1987, the young standouts were combined with the incumbents who were performing and in their prime. These included Clayton Morris, Earl Carter, Michael Maurice, Dexter Francis (converted from left to centre-back), Brian Williams, Kelvin Jones, Maurice Alibey and Richard Chinapoo.  In two years, this squad had the football world watching and wagering as to whether a combination of part-timers- soldiers, policemen and tradesmen, could beat a world superpower to the last berth in Italia ’90. There was no godfather on the FIFA executive, no third place qualification, let alone a fourth-place escape hatch. Above all, there was no foreign coach picked up at the eleventh hour.

Significantly, in the present scenario, most of the players who warrant retention, based on age and performance, are either home-based or just starting out with foreign teams. They include goalkeepers Cleon John and Marvin Phillip, and defenders Osei Telesford, Radanfah Abu Bakr and Makan Hislop. The most populous group is the midfielders- including Carlos Edwards, Densil Theobald, Keon Daniel, Kevon Neaves, Julius James, Khaleem Hyland and Hayden Tinto; and among the forwards, Cornel Glen, Kerry Baptiste and Kenwyne Jones.

From the Under-20s, there is goalie Glenroy Samuel; defenders abound in the likes of Sheldon Bateau, Ronald Primus and Uriah Bentick; Leston Paul stands out among the midfielders and forwards Jamal Gay, Shahdon Winchester, Trent Lougheed and Daniel Joseph are showing their worth. Additionally, there are several young and untried players in the TT Pro League who merit inclusion- such as Devon Jamerson, Lester Peltier, Elton John and Micah Lewis.

Finally, all support should be given to Russell Latapy as head coach, not on a trial basis, as he finds himself at present. Though the current squad continues its losing streak in qualifying, ‘Latas’ has already shown, starting at the deep end, that he has the vision and the ideas to mould such a collection of talent into a cohesive and productive force in the Concacaf. His selection of Abu Bakr and Tinto, and their performances under pressure and without previous exposure at the highest level, suggest that the little man could be one of those rare individuals who do as well at coaching as they have in their playing days. There have been suggestions already that he should be given the sack; that playing ‘a good brand’ means nothing if the team continues to lose. My take is that you cannot deposit Lewis Hamilton into a Nissan Sunny and expect a Formula One performance; neither can you expect to hand over a beaten bunch of ageing heroes to a new manager and expect a dramatic turnaround in the space of a couple of weeks.

Latapy has shown that he is willing to look beyond the muscle-bound, one-paced prima donnas who believe that having a professional contract in some lower English division club certifies them above the capabilities of the local talent. Under him, the Soca Warriors have begun to play in attack with purpose and sting, as did national teams of the pre-foreign based era. But that topic merits a separate examination.  As for the results, for me, Latapy has lost two of two mainly because the team’s defence is too slow, and quickly spent- and that includes his central midfielder, long time partner and team leader, Dwight Yorke. It was last year when I warned of the dearth of young and promising defenders in T&T, pointing out that most of the Pro League’s leading performers were imported from our Caricom neighbours. As I predicted then, Abu Bakr has been drafted in, but belatedly, as neither Francisco Maturana nor his advisors had the vision. Defence will continue to be T&T’s Achilles heel in the foreseeable future, and the answers must come, in the main, from the Under-20s.

It is too late to iron out their problems on the eve of the FIFA Youth Championship, too late to rescue a South Africa campaign that was doomed from the outset, due to a dismal lack of planning. But the time is right to begin preparation for 2014, using the Caribbean and Concacaf championships as the training grounds for the greater objective.

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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 03:05:15 PM »
WE HOPE but I feel is like vision 2020 which more like vision 3020. So might be 3014.
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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 03:06:34 PM »
The realities of these statements are compelling but hope keeps us in the fray. I too look forward to 2014 and what the "little magician" can do with a predominant local squad. As the writer stated... pre- prima donna football. I still have my fingers crossed  for 2010 but just like with the whe whe man... yuh  expectin...  Salt!  

By the way Ashford, I liked your article.
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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 03:30:35 PM »
The only benefit from our current situation is probably less pressure on the squad and staff... nothing to lose..we home.. Stern back... we beating El Salvador and the drama will restart

but this campaign would have been a "easy ride" if we did not make these mistakes
 Blacklist- cost us about 1 year and a half prep... yea it allowed some local players to develop on the national scene..under Wim of course... Trust me if Wim had the full 2006 squad to use in 2007 with new faces we would have been a Concacaf force at the moment... A disciplined unit with a good brand of Football... but too much politics went on and the rest is history

 Firing Wim- His attitude of "f**k off with the TTFF and their bullshit" was not well received... hence the sacking..

Hiring Dave Muhammed- total waste of time... under Bruce Anansen we were organised .. under this jackass.. well players getting texts and what not... everytime a senior player see's Anansen..they walk up to him and greet him as if he was a former coach...

 Hiring Maturana- puppet..waste of time...boring... get the f**k out of here

I'm not saying Latapy would have made us qualify but i'm sure if he had the same time span as Maturana things could have been different


2014 could be a decent shot.. most of the U20's and the new crop of "experienced" players can provide the perfect blend

GK's:
Phillips
Jan
Samuel
Fullerton

Def:
Y.Marshall
Primus
Bateau
Gonsalves
Abu Bakr
Makan
James
Adams
A.Edwards

Mids:
Peltier
Tinto
Wolfe
Birchall
Hyland
Theobald
Leston Paul
De Silva
Sullivan
K.Daniel
Jaggy
Guerra
Molino

Strikers:
Jones
Gay
Knox
Baptiste
Glenn
Scotty(33-34)
Roberts
Patterson
Sealy
Toussaint
Forbes
Stern(if we want to pull a Dwight and share his experience and possibly play a CM or second striker role)





« Last Edit: August 03, 2009, 03:39:02 PM by Small Magician aka Wazza »

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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2009, 03:32:20 PM »
The only benefit from our current situation is probably less pressure on the squad and staff... nothing to lose..we home.. Stern back... we beating El Salvador and the drama will restart

but this campaign would have been a "easy ride" if we did not make these mistakes
 Blacklist- cost us about 1 year and a half prep... yea it allowed some local players to develop on the national scene..under Wim of course... Trust me if Wim had the full 2006 squad to use in 2007 with new faces we would have been a Concacaf force at the moment... A disciplined unit with a good brand of Football... but too much politics went on and the rest is history

 Firing Wim- His attitude of "f**k off with the TTFF and their bullshit" was not well received... hence the sacking..

Hiring Dave Muhammed- total waste of time... under Bruce Anansen we were organised .. under this jackass.. well players getting texts and what not... everytime a senior player see's Anansen..they walk up to him and greet him as if he was a former coach...

 Hiring Maturana- puppet..waste of time...boring... get the f**k out of here

I'm not saying Latapy would have made us qualify but i'm sure if he had the same time span as Maturana things could have been different


2014 could be a decent shot.. most of the U20's and the new crop of "experienced" players can provide the perfect blend

GK's:
Phillips
Jan
Samuel
Fullerton

Def:
Y.Marshall
Primus
Bateau
Gonsalves
Abu Bakr
Makan
James
Adams
A.Edwards

Mids:
Peltier
Tinto
Birchall
Hyland
Theobald
Leston Paul
De Silva
Sullivan
K.Daniel
Jaggy
Guerra

Strikers:
Jones
Gay
Knox
Glenn
Scotty(33-34)
Roberts
Patterson








Nice squad
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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2009, 10:32:31 PM »
The only benefit from our current situation is probably less pressure on the squad and staff... nothing to lose..we home.. Stern back... we beating El Salvador and the drama will restart

but this campaign would have been a "easy ride" if we did not make these mistakes
 Blacklist- cost us about 1 year and a half prep... yea it allowed some local players to develop on the national scene..under Wim of course... Trust me if Wim had the full 2006 squad to use in 2007 with new faces we would have been a Concacaf force at the moment... A disciplined unit with a good brand of Football... but too much politics went on and the rest is history

 Firing Wim- His attitude of "f**k off with the TTFF and their bullshit" was not well received... hence the sacking..

Hiring Dave Muhammed- total waste of time... under Bruce Anansen we were organised .. under this jackass.. well players getting texts and what not... everytime a senior player see's Anansen..they walk up to him and greet him as if he was a former coach...

 Hiring Maturana- puppet..waste of time...boring... get the f**k out of here

I'm not saying Latapy would have made us qualify but i'm sure if he had the same time span as Maturana things could have been different


2014 could be a decent shot.. most of the U20's and the new crop of "experienced" players can provide the perfect blend

GK's:
Phillips
Jan
Samuel
Fullerton

Def:
Y.Marshall
Primus
Bateau
Gonsalves
Abu Bakr
Makan
James
Adams
A.Edwards

Mids:
Peltier
Tinto
Wolfe
Birchall
Hyland
Theobald
Leston Paul
De Silva
Sullivan
K.Daniel
Jaggy
Guerra
Molino

Strikers:
Jones
Gay
Knox
Baptiste
Glenn
Scotty(33-34)
Roberts
Patterson
Sealy
Toussaint
Forbes
Stern(if we want to pull a Dwight and share his experience and possibly play a CM or second striker role)







 That is a nice group of players you have listed and it does kinda get ones heart flittering a bit when yuh think of what these boys might be capable of.

A couple modifications..

Let Stern Go. (Coaching asst' any of those things can work)
Let Sealy go. With the likes of the upcomers....
I would add Elton John to dat team if even just for the exposure

Again a very nice compilation. Take a look at that midfield.. my goodness.  I hope Birchall could make at that point. Imagine yuh midfield pack up with the likes of; Peltier, guerra, Tinto, Hyland, De Silva, Jaggy, KDaniel... my good lord.
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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2009, 05:20:01 AM »
What going on with all these men who was prospering under the blacklist?

Sean Power
R. Aguilera
Dwayne Jack
Nigel Daniel
Fitzpatrick
Christian Baptiste
Jemmott
A. Pacheco
Gary Glasgow
Andre Toussaint
Kwame Wiltshire
Silas Spann
Osei Telesford

The only fellas you could really say show any kind of progress from that period are
JM/Williams/Marvin Phillip
Makan Hislop
Darryl Roberts
Kerry Baptiste (to a lesser extent)

I not counting Spann and Theobald as they were Beenie Men from since the WCQ...
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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2009, 07:06:08 AM »
What going on with all these men who was prospering under the blacklist?

Sean Power
R. Aguilera
Dwayne Jack
Nigel Daniel
Fitzpatrick
Christian Baptiste
Jemmott
A. Pacheco
Gary Glasgow
Andre Toussaint
Kwame Wiltshire
Silas Spann
Osei Telesford

The only fellas you could really say show any kind of progress from that period are
JM/Williams/Marvin Phillip
Makan Hislop
Darryl Roberts
Kerry Baptiste (to a lesser extent)

I not counting Spann and Theobald as they were Beenie Men from since the WCQ...

how ah go forget nigel daniel, Wilthshire, Seon Power
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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2009, 07:21:51 AM »
What going on with all these men who was prospering under the blacklist?

Sean Power
R. Aguilera
Dwayne Jack
Nigel Daniel
Fitzpatrick
Christian Baptiste
Jemmott
A. Pacheco
Gary Glasgow
Andre Toussaint
Kwame Wiltshire
Silas Spann
Osei Telesford

The only fellas you could really say show any kind of progress from that period are
JM/Williams/Marvin Phillip
Makan Hislop
Darryl Roberts
Kerry Baptiste (to a lesser extent)

I not counting Spann and Theobald as they were Beenie Men from since the WCQ...


Fixed...them fellas wasnt prospering...they get a bly and pop down big time.


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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2009, 07:35:04 AM »
 :applause: :applause: :applause:

The best article I have ever read from one of our local writers/broadcasters.

Forumites please take notice...the ole talk and picong is all good, but when we get down to de brass tacks...let this article serve as an example of objectivity,with a positive tone all the while...not any kinda of fight down scene, laced negatives (eg.."time to fire dis one and dat one"..blah blah blah)

Well done Mr. Jackman.

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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2009, 08:26:08 AM »
Vision 2014 my ass.  De whole TTFF blind.  De only man who could see is Jack Warner and he does only see $$$$$$$$$$$.

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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2009, 08:42:51 AM »
This outlook is promissing and can make thing in the coming years positve, BUT,
I have always maintain that the fitness level MUST be upgraded and maintained.

70 mins games would be ideal for our current squad, we always run out of gas and give up late goals.

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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2009, 09:48:39 AM »
What going on with all these men who was prospering under the blacklist?

Sean Power
R. Aguilera
Dwayne Jack
Nigel Daniel
Fitzpatrick
Christian Baptiste
Jemmott
A. Pacheco
Gary Glasgow
Andre Toussaint
Kwame Wiltshire
Silas Spann
Osei Telesford

The only fellas you could really say show any kind of progress from that period are
JM/Williams/Marvin Phillip
Makan Hislop
Darryl Roberts
Kerry Baptiste (to a lesser extent)

I not counting Spann and Theobald as they were Beenie Men from since the WCQ...


Fixed...them fellas wasnt prospering...they get a bly and pop down big time.

i totally agree wid u dey touches.
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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2009, 11:39:10 AM »
What going on with all these men who was prospering under the blacklist?

Sean Power
R. Aguilera
Dwayne Jack
Nigel Daniel
Fitzpatrick
Christian Baptiste
Jemmott
A. Pacheco
Gary Glasgow
Andre Toussaint
Kwame Wiltshire
Silas Spann
Osei Telesford

The only fellas you could really say show any kind of progress from that period are
JM/Williams/Marvin Phillip
Makan Hislop
Darryl Roberts
Kerry Baptiste (to a lesser extent)

I not counting Spann and Theobald as they were Beenie Men from since the WCQ...


Fixed...them fellas wasnt prospering...they get a bly and pop down big time.

i totally agree wid u dey touches.

By 'prospering' I meant getting nuff caps...
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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2009, 12:13:28 PM »
What going on with all these men who was prospering under the blacklist?

Sean Power
R. Aguilera
Dwayne Jack
Nigel Daniel
Fitzpatrick
Christian Baptiste
Jemmott
A. Pacheco
Gary Glasgow
Andre Toussaint
Kwame Wiltshire
Silas Spann
Osei Telesford

The only fellas you could really say show any kind of progress from that period are
JM/Williams/Marvin Phillip
Makan Hislop
Darryl Roberts
Kerry Baptiste (to a lesser extent)

I not counting Spann and Theobald as they were Beenie Men from since the WCQ...


Fixed...them fellas wasnt prospering...they get a bly and pop down big time.

i totally agree wid u dey touches.

By 'prospering' I meant getting nuff caps...

It was like fool's gold.
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2009, 11:06:32 AM »
The PFL is the main reason we make 2006 WC and also have been in the Hex the last few times.
Without is football in TnT is dead.

The best thing Jack ever did for tnt was to start that league in the early 90's

The main help the league can get from each and every one is to support the games.
Go to the game and buy a ticket.

If you Local based pick a team and go to at least 50% of the games, no excuses.

If you foreign based, when you go back home....take time to go and see at least one game.

Bring a friend with you.

support can start from the grassroot level
just look at this site, look at facebook, etc etc

It is the power of one.

Go and watch a game.

Instead of rushing home to watch Man U verses Barca for champions league or going and sweat.

Go and watch a game.

The stronger the PFL get , the better chance we have to make 2014.

We playing these teams directly in the Concacaf champions league and so far we doing OK

If we get to a point where we winning these games on the regular we could expect TnT to compete in concacaf.

Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica, Guatemala, USA players all comming from local leagues
Once our local league get on par with them we good to go.

Support the PFL.

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2009, 11:19:42 AM »
Schedule d mid week game at 6 and improve d brand and I go try 2 fit all yuh in meh schedule.
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2009, 01:26:24 PM »
KND2,
          I support everthing you say, except the part with Jack. Jack past deeds is the reason the PFL don't get support. The people who use to go a see football was ready for a pro-league 20-30 yrs ago. When Jack mash it up they walked. They were the ones who would bring their sons, nephews, grandkids to games games. When they stopped that tradition stopped. Asked them men who was home in the 80s what football was like.

 But you right is time the various communities start to support their teams.

Another impediment to the PFL is the grounds. Teams are playing too far away from their communities. Why Jabloteh and AIA must play their games in Arima or central. Why not Aranguez. The two teams can share a small stadium there. These teams are about 2 miles apart.

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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2009, 05:57:36 PM »
KND2,
          I support everthing you say, except the part with Jack. Jack past deeds is the reason the PFL don't get support. The people who use to go a see football was ready for a pro-league 20-30 yrs ago. When Jack mash it up they walked. They were the ones who would bring their sons, nephews, grandkids to games games. When they stopped that tradition stopped. Asked them men who was home in the 80s what football was like.

 But you right is time the various communities start to support their teams.

Another impediment to the PFL is the grounds. Teams are playing too far away from their communities. Why Jabloteh and AIA must play their games in Arima or central. Why not Aranguez. The two teams can share a small stadium there. These teams are about 2 miles apart.

D only reason JW strt d PFL was because it was a criteria 2 host 2001 WC. After dat he went he way and d Pro League was born. Whenn he realize it can happen witout he JP returned.
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Re: Vision 2014
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2009, 11:01:53 PM »
Get and Academy going. Bring in help from wherever and start to put together a long term system. Get as many players in there as possible and start brain washing them.
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